99. Breakdowns, Breakups, and Heartbreak

The heartbreak podcast collab you didn’t know you needed- Interstates & Heartbreak welcomes Thank You Heartbreak host Chelsea Leigh Trescott to discuss reclaiming your breakup experience to “break upward.” She discusses her evolution from serial monogamist to intentionally single, and how her standards have raised along the journey. We discuss the nuances of heartbreak, like breaking your OWN heart by staying in a relationship that doesn’t serve you, or the often ignored heartbreak of being the one to end a relationship.

TRIGGER WARNING: Chelsea reflects on some heavier topics like a suicidal ex (16:27) and dating while struggling with disordered eating (12:05, 22:50, 1:04:40).

For the woman behind the sultry voice : @thankyouheartbreak

For help transitioning from breakup to glow up : chelsea@breakupward.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

95. Chronic Illness Dating Chronicles

Gigi Robinson provides visibility to a typically invisible condition – Ehlers-Danlos syndrome – and recounts the 10+ year journey post-diagnosis that ultimately led her to build a platform dedicated to awareness around chronic illness. She drags the men who’ve had (FAR) less than ideal responses to her condition in the past, from bouncing mid-makeout, to an attempted religious conversion. She also shares the secrets around confidence and body image that ultimately led her to a Sports Illustrated swim shoot.

To slide into Gigi’s DMs about something OTHER than her Sports Illustrated photos: @itsgigirobinson

For all of the ways you can call her, beep her, if you wanna reach her : gigirobinson.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

94. What Happened in Vegas…

What happens in Vegas…gets recapped on this week’s solo podcast episode as I share a story about a married man who embodies the “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas” attitude. I divulge how a night out on a chill mother-daughter Vegas trip raised broader questions around infidelity, the politics of free drinks, and rejection etiquette.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

93. I’m So F-ing Grateful For My Ex

Jenn and Julien from Ex Appeal podcast address an age old question – can straight men and women TRULY be friends? They share how their relationship evolved from hook up buddies to friends and podcast cohosts, and tackle questions like whether friendship can co-exist with sexual attraction, how much detail your partner needs to know about your past hookups, and whether accountants really need their own podcasts.

For more dating takes from your new favorite exes : @exappealpodcast

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

84. I’m Sorry. I Can’t. Don’t Hate Me.

This week Liana Pavane and I discuss modern breakups more realistic than Che Diaz’s “two-FaceTime” story. She shares how a phone call breakup drove her to break out of toxic dating patterns and explore a “selfship” before getting back out there. We discuss why you need to create your own closure, and concrete steps towards to recovering from a breakup. On the flip side, we outline how to execute good breakup etiquette in regards to timing, location, and depth of explanation – and reflect on our past experiences that served as examples of what NOT to do.

For more modern day ghost stories : @ghosts_ofdatespast

For IRL connections (and to cut down on your screen time) : ttylnyc.com

For all of Liana’s dating insights and resources : lianapavane.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

81. Should Your BF Be Your BFF?

Today’s solo is about doing things solo – even when you have a partner. I discuss my attempt to make Bachelor viewing a couples activity, and broader expectations for shared interests in a relationship. I also reflect on using independence as a coping mechanism against a partner who doesn’t prioritize you, and the ways I acted out in response to that feeling in the past.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

61. The Life Erotic with Monica Jayne (Pt. 2)

Erotic blueprint coach Monica Jayne returns to deep dive into owning your sexual experience and breaking free from societal expectations. We dive into how media depictions of sex impact expectations around penis size, dirty talk, mischaracterized sexual “disorders,” and beyond. We wrap with tangible advice around broaching challenges ranging from gauging your partners’ interest in introducing a third, to navigating conflicting stances on porn.

To explore embarking with your own sexual journey with Monica Jayne: @iammonicajayne

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

53. BDE (Big Dateable Energy)

This week I’m joined by the extremely dateable ladies of The Undateable Podcast, Jasmine and Lauren. We dive into what it means to be fuckable but not dateable, as well as the standards society expects you to meet in order to be classified as “wifey material.” Jasmine and Lauren open up about both sexual adventures and misadventures, and discuss how to own so-called “undateable” moments (like a particular anal plug mishap) and transform them into unapologetic confidence.

For a peek at the personal dating stories that inspired Jasmine to start a podcast to begin with : @thedoglord

For all the Instagrammable photoshoot inspiration you could ever dream of : @lodofasho

For the backstory of Lauren accidentally shitting her pants on a date, and MUCH more unmissable content : Undateable Podcast

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

51. Heartbreak Hot Seat

Interstates & Heartbreak has its most surprising guest yet, as I relinquish hosting duties and become the interview subject. High school friends Will Rippetoe and David Zeff unabashedly probe into my dating past, present, and preferences, covering topics like my unmatched love of female strippers, what makes someone a f***boy/girl, and a time when I myself was worthy of the f***girl title.

For career and interview coaching tailored to companies ranging from Dominoes to Disney : @willrippetoe

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

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