99. Breakdowns, Breakups, and Heartbreak

The heartbreak podcast collab you didn’t know you needed- Interstates & Heartbreak welcomes Thank You Heartbreak host Chelsea Leigh Trescott to discuss reclaiming your breakup experience to “break upward.” She discusses her evolution from serial monogamist to intentionally single, and how her standards have raised along the journey. We discuss the nuances of heartbreak, like breaking your OWN heart by staying in a relationship that doesn’t serve you, or the often ignored heartbreak of being the one to end a relationship.

TRIGGER WARNING: Chelsea reflects on some heavier topics like a suicidal ex (16:27) and dating while struggling with disordered eating (12:05, 22:50, 1:04:40).

For the woman behind the sultry voice : @thankyouheartbreak

For help transitioning from breakup to glow up : chelsea@breakupward.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Mother’s Day Throwback – Call Her Mommy

Interstates & Heartbreak gets personal today, as I bring my mom back for an encore interview to answer listener-submitted questions! Hear our unfiltered discussion about her thoughts on dating apps, her ideal man, which of my exes was the best, and more.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

96. Dating “Mr. Big” (and Other NY Men)

Stevie Bowen revisits the early 20’s dating stories that inspired her modern Carrie Bradshaw moment – complete with her own version of Mr. Big. She dishes on the men behind the monikers in her memoir, The City of Dating…the one who (unknowingly) took her virginity, the one who fulfilled her sk8tr boi fantasy, the one who viewed protein powder as a food group…and the Charlottes, Mirandas, and Samanthas who were there to gossip with her over brunch the morning after.

For content to help you commiserate over your dating experience : @thecityofdating

For dating confessions that will help you feel better about your own love life : thecityofdating.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

93. I’m So F-ing Grateful For My Ex

Jenn and Julien from Ex Appeal podcast address an age old question – can straight men and women TRULY be friends? They share how their relationship evolved from hook up buddies to friends and podcast cohosts, and tackle questions like whether friendship can co-exist with sexual attraction, how much detail your partner needs to know about your past hookups, and whether accountants really need their own podcasts.

For more dating takes from your new favorite exes : @exappealpodcast

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

92. How NOT To Pick Up Women (From an ex-PUA)

This week Ryan Black pulls back the curtain on the motives of pick up artists – why they neg, casual sex (and why it’s NOT a flex in this case), and their apparent nightclub obsession. He opens up about his own dating journey from prepubescence to present day and how it led him into the PUA community, and the true confidence and self-acceptance he’s found since divorcing the game.

TRIGGER WARNING at 1:02:20 (gun violence & suicide mention)

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

91. If He Wanted To…Would He?

Jon Birger joins me on this week’s episode to discuss shooting your shot – and I’m not talking about March Madness. We discuss his latest book, Make Your Move: The New Science of Dating, to break down what women stand to gain from asking men out. We analyze the sexist “science” that informs traditional dating gender roles, and the evolution into modern philosophies of “If he wanted to, he would.” Jon also critiques my own feeble attempts at shooting my shot in years prior, and explains how meeting on Hinge impacts the likelihood of long term success with my current boyfriend.

To order Make Your Move or invite Jon to your book club : jonbirger.com

For more of Jon’s musings on modern dating dynamics : @jon_birger1

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

88. You’re Toxic, I’m Slipping Under

This week I interview Gabi Conti, author of Twenty Guys You Date In Your Twenties, and host of Am I Dating A Serial Killer podcast. Before diving into serial killers, we discuss serial dating – from lessons learned, to how going on thirty (yes, THIRTY) dates in one weekend indirectly led to meeting her husband. Gabi dives into how to avoid stranger danger on the apps, and we share our personal experiences of what NOT to do. We close with a discussion around self-proclaimed narcissist Che Diaz, and other pop culture icons with questionable personality traits.

To relive Gabi’s Andi Anderson-level dating escapades : @itsgabiconti

To read about the Twenty Guys You Date in Your Twenties, or if you’ve ever asked yourself “Am I Dating A Serial Killer” : gabiconti.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

87. Insecure…ly Attached

Marla Goldstein of G-Spot Coaching joins the podcast to discuss your body’s biggest sexual organ – the brain. We dive into her mission to help women find emotionally available partners, and identify the early online and IRL red flags that signal someone is emotional UNavailable. We then dissect the attachment styles and their correlation to availability, while analyzing our own attachment tendencies (along with every Love is Blind cast member’s).

To see Marla’s personal dating app game in action : @gspotcoaching

To let NPR psychoanalyze your dating style : NPR Attachment Style Quiz

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

86. Daters and Clout Chasers

This week I interview the Carrie B of Gen Z – author, actress, and influencer Carrie Berk. She candidly recaps her recent experience on the reality show Next Influencer, and how the show reinforced her decision to start dating outside of the influencer bubble. We dissect the male influencer f-boy archetype and the downsides that come with it, ranging from thirst traps to Snapchats. Carrie also pulls back the curtain on the clout chasers and love bombers that come along with so-called glamorous side of dating when you DO have a blue checkmark.

To follow the modern day Carrie Bradshaw : @carrieberkk

For the first scoop on Carrie’s upcoming book : www.carrieberk.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

80. Call Me By My Stripper Name

I’m in love with TWO strippers – Danica and Riley, today’s guests and the cohosts of 50 Plus a Tip podcast. They share strip club insights ranging from the cost of a lap dance (hint: it’s in the title of their show), how NOT to compliment a dancer, and straight female patron faux pas that range from cringy to downright rude. We also discuss the intersection of their careers and love life – including thoughts on dating customers, the effect stripping has on confidence, and when to disclose your line of work.

The only way Danica and Riley will speak to you for free : 50plusatip.com

And for the visual experience : @50plusatip

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

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