99. Breakdowns, Breakups, and Heartbreak

The heartbreak podcast collab you didn’t know you needed- Interstates & Heartbreak welcomes Thank You Heartbreak host Chelsea Leigh Trescott to discuss reclaiming your breakup experience to “break upward.” She discusses her evolution from serial monogamist to intentionally single, and how her standards have raised along the journey. We discuss the nuances of heartbreak, like breaking your OWN heart by staying in a relationship that doesn’t serve you, or the often ignored heartbreak of being the one to end a relationship.

TRIGGER WARNING: Chelsea reflects on some heavier topics like a suicidal ex (16:27) and dating while struggling with disordered eating (12:05, 22:50, 1:04:40).

For the woman behind the sultry voice : @thankyouheartbreak

For help transitioning from breakup to glow up : chelsea@breakupward.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

93. I’m So F-ing Grateful For My Ex

Jenn and Julien from Ex Appeal podcast address an age old question – can straight men and women TRULY be friends? They share how their relationship evolved from hook up buddies to friends and podcast cohosts, and tackle questions like whether friendship can co-exist with sexual attraction, how much detail your partner needs to know about your past hookups, and whether accountants really need their own podcasts.

For more dating takes from your new favorite exes : @exappealpodcast

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

88. You’re Toxic, I’m Slipping Under

This week I interview Gabi Conti, author of Twenty Guys You Date In Your Twenties, and host of Am I Dating A Serial Killer podcast. Before diving into serial killers, we discuss serial dating – from lessons learned, to how going on thirty (yes, THIRTY) dates in one weekend indirectly led to meeting her husband. Gabi dives into how to avoid stranger danger on the apps, and we share our personal experiences of what NOT to do. We close with a discussion around self-proclaimed narcissist Che Diaz, and other pop culture icons with questionable personality traits.

To relive Gabi’s Andi Anderson-level dating escapades : @itsgabiconti

To read about the Twenty Guys You Date in Your Twenties, or if you’ve ever asked yourself “Am I Dating A Serial Killer” : gabiconti.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

84. I’m Sorry. I Can’t. Don’t Hate Me.

This week Liana Pavane and I discuss modern breakups more realistic than Che Diaz’s “two-FaceTime” story. She shares how a phone call breakup drove her to break out of toxic dating patterns and explore a “selfship” before getting back out there. We discuss why you need to create your own closure, and concrete steps towards to recovering from a breakup. On the flip side, we outline how to execute good breakup etiquette in regards to timing, location, and depth of explanation – and reflect on our past experiences that served as examples of what NOT to do.

For more modern day ghost stories : @ghosts_ofdatespast

For IRL connections (and to cut down on your screen time) : ttylnyc.com

For all of Liana’s dating insights and resources : lianapavane.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

83. Two Drink Max (and Other Dating Rules) w/Lindsey Metselaar

This week I’m joined by Lindsey Metselaar of We Met At Acme podcast to discuss the harsh dating truths she learned in her 20s. She confesses to past cringe dating behaviors, like drinking too much or lingering for too long after an early sleepover. We go over the dating rules she now swears by, and how they impact gender dynamics around paying for dates, sleeping with a new partner, and making the first move.

When your group chat’s dating advice isn’t cutting it: wemetatacme.com

To join in on my poll question addiction : @wemetatacme

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

67. When Three Become One

Erica Troyer shares unfiltered insights into the modern day swingers community and what REALLY happens in sex clubs –  like the etiquette around approaching another couple for sex, and why should you avoid going on single guys’ night. She chronicles her most recent relationship within the lifestyle, from the introductory dick pic, to marriage and shared commitment to a girlfriend, and an eventual divorce that started a custody battle over a $1000+ sex toy. 

For a behind-the-scenes view at the lifestyle from Erica’s perspective : @erica_adams2917

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

63. For Better…and For Worse

David Zeff opens up about dating after divorce in arguably the most vulnerable Interstates & Heartbreak episode to-date. He outlines the journey of his last relationship- from first Tinder swipe, to “I do,” to eventually parting ways. We’re left pondering questions around closure, and David’s romantic future.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

57. Gotta Get With My Friends

This week Karen and I dive into the intersection of the platonic and the romantic relationships in our lives, and explore the widespread impact of friendship dynamics on dating. We enter the dreaded friend zone, discussing how to determine if you’re stuck in it, and her identity as “The Friend Zone Queen.” We also unpack dynamics between friends and significant others, like when to introduce them, and how to deal if you don’t like your friend’s partner or vice versa – including a very unfiltered roast of my ex from Karen’s perspective.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

55. Miss/Mister Independent

This week I’m independently recording for Independence Day to discuss involuntary independence – aka how to cope with a break-up. We’re skipping past the cliches and diving into the lessons I learned from drunk dialing my exes, crying by myself in movie theaters, and adopting a drastic hairstyle change post-breakup.

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

52. Dating Post Ghost

Interstates & Heartbreak takes a turn into the horror genre with scary ghost stories of the dating variety. Mia Piatrafesa opens up about her experience dating in Denver as a New York transplant, concluding in a particularly harrowing tale of being ghosted after “I love you.” We analyze the aftermath of getting ghosted, including tangible tips for creating your own closure, and dealing with the shame of drunk texting an ex.

To hear more of Mia’s takes on life and dating : Hey, It’s Mi podcast

To bring Mia’s vision to your own business : scotchberry.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

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