84. I’m Sorry. I Can’t. Don’t Hate Me.

This week Liana Pavane and I discuss modern breakups more realistic than Che Diaz’s “two-FaceTime” story. She shares how a phone call breakup drove her to break out of toxic dating patterns and explore a “selfship” before getting back out there. We discuss why you need to create your own closure, and concrete steps towards to recovering from a breakup. On the flip side, we outline how to execute good breakup etiquette in regards to timing, location, and depth of explanation – and reflect on our past experiences that served as examples of what NOT to do.

For more modern day ghost stories : @ghosts_ofdatespast

For IRL connections (and to cut down on your screen time) : ttylnyc.com

For all of Liana’s dating insights and resources : lianapavane.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

83. Two Drink Max (and Other Dating Rules) w/Lindsey Metselaar

This week I’m joined by Lindsey Metselaar of We Met At Acme podcast to discuss the harsh dating truths she learned in her 20s. She confesses to past cringe dating behaviors, like drinking too much or lingering for too long after an early sleepover. We go over the dating rules she now swears by, and how they impact gender dynamics around paying for dates, sleeping with a new partner, and making the first move.

When your group chat’s dating advice isn’t cutting it: wemetatacme.com

To join in on my poll question addiction : @wemetatacme

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

79. Grandma, Unfiltered w/Excuse My Grandma podcast

Kim Murstein and her Grandma Gail of Excuse My Grandma podcast join me to debate the pros and cons of modern dating- dissecting everything from self-proclaimed “entrepreneurs” on the dating apps, whether bad sex is a dealbreaker, and if there’s any benefit to being exclusive before being bf/gf. We evaluate the merit of traditional beliefs around paying for dates, women making the first move, and co-habitating before marriage in today’s dating landscape, and I tell a Venmo story that fails Grandma Gail’s standard for manners.

For more unfiltered grandmotherly advice : Excuse my Grandma on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

For the coolest grandma content on TikTok : @excusemygrandma

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

77. Dating Like a Main Character w/Case Kenny

Case Kenny of New Mindset, Who Dis? podcast joins me to discuss how reckless fuckboy / fuckgirl accusations, main character energy, and other dating buzzwords are impacting our love lives. He breaks down ways to own your standards and sniff out a legitimate fuckperson in the process without being labeled as “crazy.” Finally, we explore why we’re quicker to label someone a sociopath than to reflect on what we’re actually bringing to the table (or as Kelis would say, “to the yard”).

For daily dating inspiration : @case.kenny

For journals that will spark an internal glow up : newmindsetwhodis.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

65. Shoot Your Shot Girl Summer

Katelyn Zeff, sister to my friend and former guest David Zeff, chronicles her journey of dating in NY in search of a meaningful connection. We discuss how how to remain confident and positive in the face of the ghosting, unsolicited sexts, and recurring threesome propositions that plague hot girl (AND boy) summer.

To shoot your shot with Katelyn: @kzeffy

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

61. The Life Erotic with Monica Jayne (Pt. 2)

Erotic blueprint coach Monica Jayne returns to deep dive into owning your sexual experience and breaking free from societal expectations. We dive into how media depictions of sex impact expectations around penis size, dirty talk, mischaracterized sexual “disorders,” and beyond. We wrap with tangible advice around broaching challenges ranging from gauging your partners’ interest in introducing a third, to navigating conflicting stances on porn.

To explore embarking with your own sexual journey with Monica Jayne: @iammonicajayne

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

53. BDE (Big Dateable Energy)

This week I’m joined by the extremely dateable ladies of The Undateable Podcast, Jasmine and Lauren. We dive into what it means to be fuckable but not dateable, as well as the standards society expects you to meet in order to be classified as “wifey material.” Jasmine and Lauren open up about both sexual adventures and misadventures, and discuss how to own so-called “undateable” moments (like a particular anal plug mishap) and transform them into unapologetic confidence.

For a peek at the personal dating stories that inspired Jasmine to start a podcast to begin with : @thedoglord

For all the Instagrammable photoshoot inspiration you could ever dream of : @lodofasho

For the backstory of Lauren accidentally shitting her pants on a date, and MUCH more unmissable content : Undateable Podcast

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

47. I Love You, [Wing]Man

This week on Interstates & Heartbreak, we hear a male perspective on dating in Los Angeles. I interview the primary beneficiary of my wingwoman skills, Ryan Pantages, to reflect on the role our friendship has played in our respective dating journeys over the years – including my unsolicited input into Ryan’s choice of wardrobe and neighborhood, and his strong disapproval of two very specific individuals I dated in the past. ​

To shoot your shot with Ryan via DM : @lesliegnope

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : interstatesandheartbreak@gmail.com

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